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Ok so after my first question yesterday Clickable, bottom page reference ?! Possible ? and based on the received answer I decided to head for biblatex, install biber and all. But the documentation is tough : I found the german tutorial but except Dancke shön I don't know what to say/do.

Ok so my question is simple.

I loaded enter code herebiblatex this way

\RequirePackage[backend=biber,style=chem-acs,sorting=none,hyperref]{biblatex}

And the American Chemical Society style is perfect (well almost what I'm looking for).

Now this option loading verbose

\RequirePackage[backend=biber,style=verbose-trad1,sorting=none,hyperref]{biblatex}

allows me to have footnote citations as I wished!

But I would like to have footnote citations with op cit ibid. etc ... and the ACS format (or whateever else format.)

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It is quite easy. biblatex allows you to choose a style for the bibliography, and a style for the citation. It is clearly written in the biblatex documentation.

bibstyle=chem-acs,citestyle=verbose-trad1

Instead of your style=chem-acs

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Thanks a lot Martigan. Shame on me. –  oo1on Jun 13 '11 at 17:55

As Martigan said, in principle it is possible to combine different styles for citations and bibliographies. I'll add two caveats:

  • With the standard styles shipped with biblatex, certain combinations (especially with a non-default sorting scheme on top) may hamper the accessibility of bibliography entries. An example would be citestyle=numeric,bibstyle=authoryear,sorting=none (the last option will sort the entries according to their in-text citation order).

  • Custom styles available on CTAN may be programmed in a way that the citation and bibliography style files are mutually dependend, and combining any of them with a different style may result in non-functional output or even outright error messages. An example are the styles included in the biblatex-dw package (an author-title style and a verbose style that offer features over and above that of the corresponding standard styles).

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Ok lockstep. So a cleaner way would be to simply get to modify the style to obtain author,journal,year,vol (without title) and with the the verbose cite style ? Is that it ? But how do I modify these options ? (for example get rid of the title ? Is editing a style sheet the only way ? (i'm starting to think that natbib was easier more documentation at least...for me ..) By the way if I would like a citation to be cited only the first time it appears in the footnot and then no op cit or ibid wath cite style should I use ? –  oo1on Jun 13 '11 at 18:04
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@oo1on: I would skim the documentation of custom styles and look for "Don't mix those style with other ones" warnings. If not, I would at least look for "funny" output when combining styles. Regarding your "What style should I use" question: Obviously you want full bibliographic data the first time an entry is cited, but what exactly (!) should the output look like the second time? –  lockstep Jun 13 '11 at 18:11
    
@lockstep Ok so to be clear here would be brievly described my dream : citation as exponent numbers (no () no [] no Author,date. Then the first time a ref is cited it appears as footnote with the exponent number corresponding to the one it will be attributed in the bibliography at the end. If cited a second time nothing happends only the same citation number but no footnote at all ! I'm almost going crazy not being able to do this : it's so current in al the Word redacted thesis in my lab, I don't get it why I can't do this easily with latex. –  oo1on Jun 13 '11 at 19:23
    
@lockstep and the citation style would be idealy Name Firstname (only initial), Journal, Year (in bold), vol, pages. –  oo1on Jun 13 '11 at 19:25
    
oo1on: I see ... but you should definitely post your request as a new question. –  lockstep Jun 13 '11 at 19:25

You could also use

\renewcommand*{\nameyeardelim}{\addcomma\space}

after loading biblatex or set the natbib compatibility layer (which uses this command to include the comma). I found that works better as I had some side effects using apa as style compared to authoryear.

(from http://meinews.niuz.biz/biblatex-t500020.html#td_post_4652515)

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