# efrench vs frenchb

What are the differences between efrench and frenchb? Are they compatible with one another (for example the use of \og and fg in frenchb)?

Why is efrench not in TeXLive even though its documentation claims that it is prioritary over frenchb when calling \usepackage[french]{babel}?

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In the (rather difficult to find) documentation, one sees that B. Gaulle rants about ostracism by the TeX community. I'd say that "efrench" is a substitute for Babel frenchb, but I don't know to what extent; the doc claims it has \og and \fg. –  egreg Sep 11 '11 at 19:47
It's not in TeX Live because it hasn't a free license. –  egreg Sep 11 '11 at 21:49
Ah! That doesn't help for sure (and might very well weight in the balance as far as choosing which one to use...)! –  ℝaphink Sep 11 '11 at 21:56
efrench does have a free licence -- lppl (what's more, it says so in the index.html); this ought to be good enough for it to be in tl, so i'll have a word with karl –  wasteofspace Sep 12 '11 at 11:41
karl berry (a) thinks the package too confused to go into tl, and (b) has noticed more than one licence statement in the bundle; i have mailed the maintainers of efrench, and they tell me they have a plan to sort it all out; this may take some time... –  wasteofspace Sep 16 '11 at 15:18