# Formatting typographer's quote marks

This question has been asked before. But, I have not found a solution. I have a problem related with quotation marks.

A MWE is:

main document:

\documentclass[10pt,english,british,twoside,openany]{scrbook}
\usepackage{novel}


then,

novel.sty:

\usepackage{csquotes}
\MakeOuterQuote{"}


I need to be able to obtain left/right single typographer's quote marks and left/right double typographer's quote marks.

The resulting .pdf contains straight quotes that are all slanted the same way (forward). I have tried a number of ways of adding quote marks to the text with no success. Is this because of my font choice (Palatino)?

I would really appreciate help in obtaining curly typographer's quote marks. Is there an easy way to achieve this?

Again, thanks for your interest. Here is my MWE.

The main .tex file is:

%TITR Main Document 5.06in x 7.81in, facing pages
%Preamble
\documentclass[10pt,english,british,twoside,openany]{scrbook}
\usepackage{novel}

%Frontmatter
\begin{document}
\title{Tears in the Rain}
\date{}
\maketitle
\frontmatter
\pagestyle{empty} %Empty page left
\noindent \begin{flushright}
{\huge{}Tears in the Rain}
\par\end{flushright}{\huge \par}
\cleardoubleoddemptypage
\thispagestyle {empty}
\includegraphics{./images/bensig}
\vspace*{0.5in}
\begin{flushright}

{\Huge{}Tears in the Rain}
\par\end{flushright}{\Huge \par}

\clearpage
\begin{center}
\end{center}
\begin{center}
\end{center}

\vspace*{0.5in}
\begin{center}
\begin{minipage}[t]{0.5\paperwidth}
No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored
in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form, or by any means;
mechanical, electrical, photocopying, scanning, recording or otherwise,
without prior written consent from the publishers. Every effort has
\end{minipage}
\end{center}
\vspace*{0.5in}
\begin{center}
ISBN:
\end{center}
\vspace*{0.2in}
\begin{center}
A CIP Record for this book is available from the British
Library.
\end{center}

\vspace*{0.1in}

\begin{center}
Typeset in \LaTeXe
\end{center}

%Insert an empty left page
\cleardoubleoddemptypage
\thispagestyle {empty}
\vspace*{\fill}

\tableofcontents

\markboth{\MakeUppercase{Preface}}{}

\chapter*{Preface}
\input{./chapters/a_front/pref.tex}
%\subfile{./chapters/a_front/pref.tex}

%Mainmatter
\mainmatter
\noindent

\pagestyle{fancy}
\fancyfoot[C]{\small \slshape \thepage \hspace{3mm} Tears in the Rain}
\fancyfoot[RO]{\small \slshape Tears in the Rain}
\fancyfoot[LE]{\small \slshape Tears in the Rain}
\fancyfoot[C]{\thepage}
\renewcommand{\footrulewidth}{0.25pt}

%The Chapters
\input{./child_docs/child_docs.tex}

\end{document}


This calls 'novel.sty':

%novel.sty (Style package for the novel template)
\usepackage{microtype}
\usepackage{palatino}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{ebgaramond}
\usepackage{lmodern}
\usepackage{enumitem}
\usepackage[sc]{mathpazo}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{textcomp}
\usepackage{framed}
\usepackage{ragged2e}
\usepackage[Lenny]{fncychap}
\usepackage{lettrine}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage[UKenglish]{babel}
\usepackage{type1cm}
\usepackage{lettrine}
\renewcommand\thepart{\Alph{part}}
\renewcommand*\rmdefault{ppl}
\newcommand{\apostrophe}{\XeTeXglyph\XeTeXcharglyph"0027\relax}
\KOMAoptions{open=any}
\renewcommand*\rmdefault{ppl}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}
\pagestyle{fancy}
\widowpenalty=300
\clubpenalty=300
\renewcommand*{\partpagestyle}{empty}

%Settings for quotation marks<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
\usepackage[autostyle, english = british]{csquotes}
\MakeOuterQuote{"}

%Settings for page size and layout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
\usepackage[paperwidth=5.06in,paperheight=7.81in]{geometry}

%Character dialogue settings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
\newlist{dialogdash}{description}{1}
\setlist[dialogdash]{labelindent = 0.25in, leftmargin = \labelindent, labelsep = 0.3em, rightmargin = 0.35in, nosep,topsep = 0.5ex, itemsep = 0.5ex, align = left}
\newenvironment{dlgdash}{\begin{dialogdash}\item[---]}{\end{dialogdash}}
\newlist{dialognodash}{itemize}{1}
\setlist[dialognodash]{label = ,labelindent = 0.25in, leftmargin = \labelindent, rightmargin = 0.35in, nosep, topsep = 0.1ex, itemsep = 0.1ex, align = left}
\newenvironment{dlgnodash}{\begin{dialognodash}\item }{\end{dialognodash}}
\def\bdlg{\begin{dlgnodash}}
\def\edlg{\end{dlgnodash}}
%End Dialogue settings <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


And finally, the 'child_docs.tex' file:

\input{./chapters/part_one/part_one.tex}

\chapter{One}
\input{./chapters/chap_one/scenes/one_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_one/scenes/one_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_one/scenes/one_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_one/scenes/one_four.tex}

\chapter{Two}
\input{./chapters/chap_two/scenes/two_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_two/scenes/two_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_two/scenes/two_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_two/scenes/two_four.tex}

\chapter{Three}
\input{./chapters/chap_three/scenes/three_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_three/scenes/three_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_three/scenes/three_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_three/scenes/three_four.tex}

\input{./chapters/part_two/part_two.tex}

\chapter{Four}
\input{./chapters/chap_four/scenes/four_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_four/scenes/four_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_four/scenes/four_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_four/scenes/four_four.tex}

\chapter{Five}
\input{./chapters/chap_five/scenes/five_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_five/scenes/five_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_five/scenes/five_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_five/scenes/five_four.tex}

\chapter{Six}
\input{./chapters/chap_six/scenes/six_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_six/scenes/six_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_six/scenes/six_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_six/scenes/six_four.tex}

\input{./chapters/part_three/part_three.tex}

\chapter{Seven}
\input{./chapters/chap_seven/scenes/seven_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_seven/scenes/seven_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_seven/scenes/seven_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_seven/scenes/seven_four.tex}

\chapter{Eight}
\input{./chapters/chap_eight/scenes/eight_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eight/scenes/eight_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eight/scenes/eight_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eight/scenes/eight_four.tex}

\chapter{Nine}
\input{./chapters/chap_nine/scenes/nine_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_nine/scenes/nine_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_nine/scenes/nine_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_nine/scenes/nine_four.tex}

\input{./chapters/part_four/part_four.tex}

\chapter{Ten}
\input{./chapters/chap_ten/scenes/ten_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_ten/scenes/ten_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_ten/scenes/ten_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_ten/scenes/ten_four.tex}

\chapter{Eleven}
\input{./chapters/chap_eleven/scenes/eleven_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eleven/scenes/eleven_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eleven/scenes/eleven_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eleven/scenes/eleven_four.tex}

\chapter{Twelve}
\input{./chapters/chap_twelve/scenes/twelve_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twelve/scenes/twelve_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twelve/scenes/twelve_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twelve/scenes/twelve_four.tex}

\chapter{Thirteen}
\input{./chapters/chap_thirteen/scenes/thirteen_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_thirteen/scenes/thirteen_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_thirteen/scenes/thirteen_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_thirteen/scenes/thirteen_four.tex}

\input{./chapters/part_five/part_five.tex}

\chapter{Fourteen}
\input{./chapters/chap_fourteen/scenes/fourteen_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_fourteen/scenes/fourteen_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_fourteen/scenes/fourteen_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_fourteen/scenes/fourteen_four.tex}

\chapter{Fifteen}
\input{./chapters/chap_fifteen/scenes/fifteen_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_fifteen/scenes/fifteen_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_fifteen/scenes/fifteen_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_fifteen/scenes/fifteen_four.tex}

\chapter{Sixteen}
\input{./chapters/chap_sixteen/scenes/sixteen_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_sixteen/scenes/sixteen_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_sixteen/scenes/sixteen_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_sixteen/scenes/sixteen_four.tex}

\input{./chapters/part_six/part_six.tex}

\chapter{Seventeen}
\input{./chapters/chap_seventeen/scenes/seventeen_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_seventeen/scenes/seventeen_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_seventeen/scenes/seventeen_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_seventeen/scenes/seventeen_four.tex}

\chapter{Eighteen}
\input{./chapters/chap_eighteen/scenes/eighteen_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eighteen/scenes/eighteen_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eighteen/scenes/eighteen_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_eighteen/scenes/eighteen_four.tex}

\chapter{Nineteen}
\input{./chapters/chap_nineteen/scenes/nineteen_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_nineteen/scenes/nineteen_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_nineteen/scenes/nineteen_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_nineteen/scenes/nineteen_four.tex}

\input{./chapters/part_seven/part_seven.tex}

\chapter{Twenty}
\input{./chapters/chap_twenty/scenes/twenty_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twenty/scenes/twenty_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twenty/scenes/twenty_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twenty/scenes/twenty_four.tex}

\chapter{Twenty-One}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyone/scenes/twentyone_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyone/scenes/twentyone_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyone/scenes/twentyone_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyone/scenes/twentyone_four.tex}

\chapter{Twenty-Two}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentytwo/scenes/twentytwo_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentytwo/scenes/twentytwo_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentytwo/scenes/twentytwo_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentytwo/scenes/twentytwo_four.tex}

\chapter{Twenty-Three}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentythree/scenes/twentythree_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentythree/scenes/twentythree_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentythree/scenes/twentythree_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentythree/scenes/twentythree_four.tex}

\chapter{Twenty-Four}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyfour/scenes/twentyfour_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyfour/scenes/twentyfour_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyfour/scenes/twentyfour_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyfour/scenes/twentyfour_four.tex}

\chapter{Twenty-Five}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyfive/scenes/twentyfive_one.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyfive/scenes/twentyfive_two.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyfive/scenes/twentyfive_three.tex}
\input{./chapters/chap_twentyfive/scenes/twentyfive_four.tex}

\chapter*{Meet the Author}
\input{./chapters/d_back/back.tex}

• Did you type typographers quote marks in your editor(using UTF8 input encoding and T1 font encoding)? – Bernard Jul 15 '14 at 19:45
• When in doubt, make a minimal working example :-) If I do \documentclass{article} \usepackage{mathpazo} \begin{document} Hello'' \end{document} I get what I'd expect: 'straight-ish' quotes as that is the style in Palatino. We've not got a full MWE in the question at present, but I suspect you could well be right that this is simply a font design situation. – Joseph Wright Jul 15 '14 at 19:50
• Also note that you can add code by editing your question - don't add it as a comment since it is unreadable. That said, why are you loading a whole bunch of incompatible font packages. You are not setting palatino globally if you then set EB Garamond globally and then set Latin Modern globally and then... Are you sure you can use " as an active quote character? – cfr Jul 16 '14 at 1:51
• I've converted the 'answer' to an edit, but this is far from a MWE. Please take a look at the link @cfr gave about preparing one: cut down your input to something we can test (probably running everything into one file). – Joseph Wright Jul 16 '14 at 7:10
• Also, as I've already noted, Palatino has 'straight' looking quotes as a design decision, so if you are choosing that font then you don't get the more 'curly' style of quote some fonts provide. – Joseph Wright Jul 16 '14 at 7:11

\usepackage{palatino}
\usepackage{ebgaramond}
\usepackage{lmodern}
\usepackage[sc]{mathpazo}
\usepackage{type1cm}


palatino is obsolete; ebgaramond voids the action of palatino; lmodern voids the action of ebgaramond; mathpazo voids the action of lmodern.

Next type1cm defines some font families that will never be used.

However you also have the line

\renewcommand*\rmdefault{ppl}


which voids most actions of mathpazo. You eventually get Palatino, but almost by chance (and in the wrong family).

If you want Palatino as the main font, just use

\usepackage[sc]{mathpazo}


or

\usepackage{newpxtext,newpxmath}


and no \renewcommand\rmdefault{...} command. Leave this to the chosen font package.

About the “issue” with “typographic quotes”, there is just one thing to do: the quotes of Palatino have been designed by Hermann Zapf in a rather peculiar way: the input

quotes''

\bigskip

"quotes"


(with your definition of \MakeOuterQuote) produces

which agrees with the quotes as designed by Zapf.