MnSymbol has a \udotdot command (search for \udotdot in the comprehensive latex symbol list document), but I don't want to import MnSymbol because of all the side-effects (for instance, it creates \vec definitions that clash with other \vec definitions, and its meant to be used with Adobe Minion Pro in particular).

How can I create my own \udotdot symbol, for use with Computer Modern or Concrete Math?

  • You can pull a single symbol from another font. See Importing a single symbol from a different font – Werner Feb 12 '15 at 4:02
  • @Werner but it will look weird compared to the the Computer Modern beside it, no? – user89 Feb 12 '15 at 4:17
  • i don't believe this symbol is in unicode. what is its meaning, please, and can you provide a reference to its use in a publication from an established publisher, preferably in a context that defines its scope of application? i will be happy to propose it for unicode, but solid documentation is required. – barbara beeton Feb 12 '15 at 15:13

The following example uses the normal dot to generate the symbol:

  • \mathpalette adds support for the different math styles.
  • It is assumed, that the dot is on the base line with a correct character bounding box including symmetrical side bearings. The dot itself has the same width and height.
  • The two dots of \udotdot lie on opposite corners of a square, which is centered around the math axis.
  • The centers of the dots lie on the upper and lower borders of the equals sign.

Implementation with example:


  % #1: math style
  % #2: unused
  % Box 0: dot
  % Remove side bearings
  \setbox2=\hbox to \ht0{\hss\copy0\hss}
  % Side bearing
  % Box 2: equal sign
  % Box 4: math axis
  \dimen@=\dimexpr(\ht4-\ht6)*2 + \ht0\relax
  \kern\dimen2 % side bearing
  \vcenter to \dimen@{%
    \hbox to \dimen@{\hfill\copy2}%
    \hbox to \dimen@{\copy2\hfill}%
  \kern\dimen2 % side bearing

\[ a \udotdot b \]


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  • Thanks very much for this generous answer. In order to be able to make my own operator symbols in the future (i.e. fully understand what you just did), are there a resources you'd recommend I familiarze myself with? – user89 Feb 12 '15 at 4:39
  • @user89 Further readings: The TeXbook by Donald E. Knuth or TeX by Topic by Victor Eijkhout. – Heiko Oberdiek Feb 12 '15 at 4:44

You can either import the single MnSymbol symbol, or create one that roughly matches it:

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$a \cdots e \cdot a \mathbin{\cdot\cdot} e \mathbin{{\cdot}{\cdot}} a \udotdot e$

$a \udotdot e_{a \udotdot e_{a \udotdot e}}$

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  • smart....the rotatebox command comes from graphicx? – user89 Feb 12 '15 at 4:42
  • @user89: Yes, and amsmath's \text ensure the appropriate size of the eventual \cdot-pair that is rotated. – Werner Feb 12 '15 at 5:11

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