# Can I use biblatex to produce processed tex file for use with pandoc?

I'm using biblatex (actually biblatex-chicago) with biber to process citations in an academic paper. Unfortunately I need to provide a Word file for a stage in the editorial process. I know that pandoc can use Bibtex refs and citeproc to create a bibliography, but it has a different syntax, and I don't want to set up the document to do that if I'm going to use biblatex in the end, and citeproc doesn't allow the same control that biblatex does.

So what I'd like to do is use biblatex as usual, but to produce a modified tex file rather than a pdf. I would then use pandoc to turn the tex into a docx file. Where my original tex file would have citation commands such as:

\cite{XXX2000}

the processed tex file would have commands to typeset the citation:

(XXX, 2000)

I imagine this is an intermediate stage in the biblatex/biber process.

Is there any way I can achieve this?

Thanks for any help.

UPDATE

Thanks to the comments below, I have solved this problem by using tex4ht.

A simple introduction to its use is here: https://github.com/michal-h21/helpers4ht/wiki/tex4ht-tutorial

Note: to use tex4ht with latest versions of biblatex, you need to update one of the tex4ht files, biblatex.4ht. Details here: http://cvr.cc/?p=901#comment-16733

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– DG'
Mar 12, 2016 at 13:39
• I've usually relied on some reasonable PDF->Word converter for things like this - some are quite good.
– PLK
Mar 12, 2016 at 17:37
• You might find better luck with tex4ht to get .odt and then save as .docx. Pandoc is great until you start dealing with complex .tex files.
– jon
Mar 13, 2016 at 0:43
• Thanks. @jon, that's very helpful - I hadn't heard of that. I'm using arara with Texshop, do you know if tex4ht can be called from within that? Mar 13, 2016 at 17:20
• @JonMair -- I'm afraid I know nothing about Texshop. I'm strictly emacs....
– jon
Mar 13, 2016 at 21:37

Depending on the complexity of your source document, you should also be able to get a decent result with pandoc when converting directly from .tex to .docx. Pick an appropriate Chicago-style from the Zotero style repo and convert your file with pandoc -s -S --csl=Chicago_foo.csl --bibliography=foo.bib --filter pandoc-citeproc your_document.tex -o my_submission.docx. As indicated your mileage may vary, make sure you have the latest pandoc installed (1.16.0.2).

• Thanks -- I really like pandoc, but citeproc doesn't deal with referencing with enough precision for my purposes. I find it doesn't capitalize properly for example. For publishers I need to be able to give them things in exactly the format they specify. Maybe that's a csl problem, but for whatever reason, having tried with a number of different syles, I always seem to have small problems. Mar 15, 2016 at 20:16
• Yes, the challenge is more to choose a suitable style file (csl) that matches the needed output. Mar 16, 2016 at 8:39

Thanks to the comments below, I have solved this problem by using tex4ht.

A simple introduction to its use is here: https://github.com/michal-h21/helpers4ht/wiki/tex4ht-tutorial

Note: to use tex4ht with latest versions of biblatex, you need to update one of the tex4ht files, biblatex.4ht. Details here: http://cvr.cc/?p=901#comment-16733

An extra tip: (Calling the command through Texshop) I found the tex4ht command often returned errors, but trashing auxiliary files and rerunning it solved the problem.

When I had to submit a Word file for a stage in the editorial process, I decided to use a secondary, or rudimentary option. I compiled my tex project in PDF, then opened it in Adobe Acrobat DC. This software has a powerful export feature to xdoc. So it worked fine, I was surprised.