# How can I become as advanced as David Carlisle or egreg? [closed]

I have been using LaTeX for almost two years now and I have understood that the books I read gave me very little experince. The packages and tactics explained there are obsolete, for example,

• nothing about xparse and expl3 packages, that allow to simply do cool things.
• Not a word about Xe or LuaTeX and unicode-math to use a variety of fonts.
• Nothing about the power of implemented Lua language.
• Usually, Pstricks or xy-pic graphics are discussed, while as I am awared, TikZ and Asymptote are much more powerful.

In fact, all my skills came from this very site, where I can ask a question and some almighty developers answer and get me aquainted with the powerful packages I have never heard before. For example, I discovered aligned (instead of align), multlined (instead of multline), etc. after asking a question here.

Also, my skills came from skills to read documentations, for example, datatool or enumitem.

My questions are:

• What literature should I read to begin becoming an advanced user?
• How to hear tools and packages you have never heard about before?
• What is the best way to discover newly released powers of doing something, rather than to continue using obsolete ones? (speaking shortly: how to be stylish and up-to-date?). For example, xparse "o" option allows you to evade the hell of \def\YourCommand{\@ifnextchar[{\@with}{\@without}}

P. S. I hope the title of the question is not violating the rule not to go personal.

## closed as too broad by Moriambar, Werner, egreg, Henri Menke, Alan MunnMay 23 '17 at 23:03

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• To answer the title of your question really short: It appears nobody can get as experienced as they are :) – Skillmon May 23 '17 at 20:35
• I wouldn't say TiKZ or asymptote are much more powerful than pstricks. They do not have exactly the same facilities, and, in my opinion, pstricks is easier to learn. – Bernard May 23 '17 at 20:38
• There are two different parts in that knowledge: know how TeX works (I learned through this site, and I don't know TeX to that level, but you can conform with much less knowledge); and also real world up to date knowledge about what is new in the TeX world, what works best, what new packages, etc. Both of them you can get from this site. With time you will get to understand TeX, and the up to date information you will gather just by reading answers or comments here. But may be you are a better “book learner”, I'm bad, and I learnt much more from randomly reading answers here than reading docs. – Manuel May 23 '17 at 20:40
• there seems to be a typo in your title, surely you didn't mean the user egreg? – David Carlisle May 23 '17 at 21:40
• Actually, expertise in TeX is acheived by sacrificing chickens. If you don't believe me, dig down through your TeX system, and find the folder named "chickenize." But don't you dare open it! – user103221 May 23 '17 at 23:23

• Actually, one does get more rep than the creator of xii.tex. :) But only one. – Alan Munn May 23 '17 at 23:02