I usually use latex to write small-ish reports/articles and the standard classes always did me right.

Given I'm using A4 paper I always found layaureo to do a pretty good job of filling the page without breaking typography rules too much.

Now I need to write a longer work and I'm looking at the memoir class.

Given this class seems to follow a much more do-it-all philosophy than the standard classes, is there any downside about using layaureo with it? or should I try to emulate layaureo geometry within memoir itself?

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    Since memoir is compatible with geometry, and layaureo is simply a wrapper for geometry I don't see any problems using it with memoir.
    – Alan Munn
    Dec 25, 2017 at 18:34
  • Memoir is compatible, but you will lose the typographical aesthetic benefits of Memoir's layout mechanisms. While you can use Memoir and then stomp all over it, part of the point of choosing Memoir is a desire to layout your pages according to one of various typographical principles. It is not the only reason, but it is a major part of the class's appeal. Hence, you should get clear about why you do want to use Memoir, if you want something different.
    – cfr
    Dec 26, 2017 at 5:27
  • Personally, I'd see if you can use Memoir's configuration macros first. Load more code only if you really must. Loading more stuff always increases the chances of mysterious inconsistencies and territorial conflicts, if not with Memoir, then with other things. Plus, the various facilities of Memoir are designed to work together and will work best when used together. That is, life is likely to be more straightforward if you don't do stuff memoir wants to do in conflicting ways.
    – cfr
    Dec 26, 2017 at 5:31
  • @cfr I'm all for embracing the typographical principles memoir is based on. The whole point of using it was to only think about the content and let it do its thing about layout. Do you know if are there recommended margin settings to use it with a4 paper? single column with binding and no margin notes.
    – filippo
    Dec 26, 2017 at 8:57
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    @filippo Just follow the guide in Memoir's manual. It shows you how to layout the page in various ways and includes recommendations. It also tells you what it will do or can do automatically, so you can specify one or two key parameters and let Memoir sort it out.
    – cfr
    Dec 27, 2017 at 1:22

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(Warning; I'm the original author of memoir). Try layaureo with memoir and see if it works. However in general I think it would be better to use memoir's native facilities to set up your desired layout. Note that memoir does provide several layouts corresponding to some traditional forms via, for example, \medievalpage, \isopage and \semiisopage. Read Chapter 2 of the documentation > texdoc memoir.

In one of your comments you basically asked if there were recommended layouts. My A Few Notes on Book Design (>texdoc memdesign) lists the details of some 32 page designs that are considered to be "good" throughout the ages, all of which can be configured within memoir. I'm sorry to say that filling an A4 page with text would not be among these.

  • Thank you, I tried layaureo. But it feels wrong using it with your beautiful class. At the moment I'm using \isopage[10] with 0.8cm binding. I get about the same line width as layaureo, but I'm finding the page way too full for my liking, will probably increase margins. Will look into memdesign, sounds like an interesting read. About A4, it's unfortunate how it became the defacto standard for european documents. It roughly works with double column layouts or wide margin notes but it's way too big for single column.
    – filippo
    Dec 30, 2017 at 19:37

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