I want to have the following sections numbering style:

I. Section

A. Subsection

  1. SubSubsection

The following lines of code present different style:




I. Section

I.A. Subsection

I.A.1. SubSubsection

Your help is highly appreciated!

Best regards,

  • what about a \phantom to include \thesection in second command and \thesubsection in third? (Not tested)
    – koleygr
    Mar 31, 2018 at 10:16
  • In order to get rid of the section number in the subsection title, you could use \renewcommand{\thesubsection}{\Alph{subsection}}. Analogously, you can remove thesubsection from the definition of thesubsubsection.
    – leandriis
    Mar 31, 2018 at 10:16
  • 1
    The indented subsubsection number is weird and only useful, if the subsubsection content has an appropriate indent as well
    – user31729
    Mar 31, 2018 at 11:44
  • I find it a bad idea to kill the top - level numbering of subsection etc. As soon as there two or more sections having sub- and subsubsection the numbering repeats and cross-referencing is weird
    – user31729
    Mar 31, 2018 at 12:06
  • I agree it's a strange system, but then again, we've seen other weird requests lately (mostly from thesis commitees...)
    – remco
    Mar 31, 2018 at 12:12

2 Answers 2


The following does almost what you want, except for the font sizes:

    \makeatletter %needed
    % reduce space between number and section title a bit
        {{\csname the#1\endcsname\hspace{.25em}}}
    % allow more space in ToC for section number (4.5em here)
    % adjust indentation for the lower levels



\section{A section}

\subsection{A subsection}

\subsubsection{A subsubsection}


Note the \protect in the redefinition of \thesubsubsection: the argument of the macro is a moving argument (used in several places, here in the headers and in the ToC), so certain macros (like \phantom) need a \protect to avoid compilation errors.

EDIT: Added some extra redefinitions to give space for the longer Roman numerals.

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    This was the idea of my comment, but check a \setcounter{section}{35} before the first section and see the toc... Doesn't work as expected in toc... So it was a bad idea
    – koleygr
    Mar 31, 2018 at 10:34
  • That can be corrected through some other redefinitions, see my edited answer.
    – remco
    Mar 31, 2018 at 12:13
  • Using your "edited way" I suppose you could just be used for the fixed space without the \phantom. It is now a mix of unrelated ideas. Explaining: The first idea was to use a "dynamic" phantom space that would be adjusted by the compiler... The second is manual fixes and thus doesn't respect the second and will need adjustments anyway. I don't really see a reason to mix these ideas...
    – koleygr
    Mar 31, 2018 at 12:18
  • The phantom takes up the space for the section number, the fixed spaces are for the reserved space in the Toc, and space between number and title. A better solution would be to remove the added space in `\thesubsubsection' completely., as Christian Hupfer suggested. A definite answer will have to combine the different bits...
    – remco
    Mar 31, 2018 at 12:33
  • @koleygr: Your \phantom approach would insert the space in a potential reference as well
    – user31729
    Mar 31, 2018 at 14:23

Incorporating the space inside of the \thesubsubsection is a bad idea since this space will enter the cross-referencing as well, so \ref{foo} would give ______1, where ______ indicates the additional space.

I suggest to change the \@seccntformat macro for subsubsection, using \ifnum0=\pdfstrcmp in order to check whether the counter is subsubsection etc.








Please see \fbox{\ref{foosubsubsec}}

\subsubsection{SubSubsection} \label{foosubsubsec}


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  • Latex, XeLatex, and LuaLatex didn't like this code (the \pdfstrcmp, perhaps?). and it has the same problem @koleygr noticed in my initial proposal
    – remco
    Mar 31, 2018 at 12:27
  • @remco: Which problem? The spacing in ToC? That's the natural spacing which is there in the ToC anyway. And I did not claim that it would work with LaTeX, XeLaTeX or LuaLaTeX -- those are lacking some features and therefore I don't use them
    – user31729
    Mar 31, 2018 at 14:16
  • A large section number overwrites the title in the ToC.
    – remco
    Mar 31, 2018 at 14:29
  • @remco: That's the case already even without redefinition of \the.... stuff. What you achieved by redefinition of \l@.... can be done with tocloft as well, quicker, in my point of view. The O.P. left no information about the real spacing, that's why I did not change the number width
    – user31729
    Mar 31, 2018 at 14:29

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