How to use footcite in citation order and independently from footnotes?

Question

I have a KOMA book class and I want to be able to use footcite. My code looks something like this

\documentclass{scrbook}

\usepackage[backend=biber,natbib=true,style=ieee]{biblatex}

\usepackage[colorlinks=true, allcolors=blue]{hyperref}
\addbibresource{sample.bib}

\begin{document}

\chapter{Chap 1}
Some text\cite{greenwade93}. 


\printbibliography

\end{document}

Which generates a references at the end of the book. But if I replace the \cite by a \footcite I get some undesired behavior.

I want a footnote to have the same number as it is in the bibliography at the end of the document. Also I want footnotes to be independent of footcites. If I do a foonote followed by citation, the footnote should not take a value that is taken by the citations.

Some note\footnote{This is a note} followed by a referenced 
text\footcite{greenwade93}.

Should return something like this

1: This is a note

[1]: greenwade 1993

How do I do that?

Answer 1

Using biblatex with manyfoot package gets closer to a bottomcite:

The references print in citation order but are numbered according to the bibliography's alphabetical-by-family-name order.

MWE

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[ruled]{manyfoot}
\usepackage{biblatex}
\addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

\setlength{\textheight}{5in} % just to make a smaller picture

% Define a citation command based on \supercite
% but without superscripting
% because the footnoter command will take care of that;
% and put the bib labelnumber in []:
\DeclareCiteCommand{\superciten}%[\mkbibsuperscript]
  {\iffieldundef{prenote}
     {}
     {\BibliographyWarning{Ignoring prenote argument}}%
   \iffieldundef{postnote}
     {}
     {\BibliographyWarning{Ignoring postnote argument}}}
  {%
    \usebibmacro{citeindex}%
   \mkbibbrackets{\usebibmacro{cite}}%
   }
  {\supercitedelim}
  {}

% Define a new foot layer called c,
% so that command \Footnotetextc becomes available:
\newfootnote{c}

% For convenience, put footnotemark/footnotetext commands 
% in a wrapper macro:
\newcommand{\bottomcite}[1]{%
\Footnotemark{\superciten{#1}}\Footnotetextc{}{\fullcite{#1}}}

\begin{document}
text\footnote{A footnote.} 
text\Footnotemark{m}\Footnotetextc{}{c note text} 
text\footnote{Another footnote.} 

xmtest\bottomcite{worman} 
xotest\Footnotemark{\superciten{nussbaum}}\Footnotetextc{}{\fullcite{nussbaum}} 
xntest\bottomcite{sigfridsson}
 
%x \autocite{aksin}


\printbibliography
\end{document}

---

Edited to add

The biblatex vancouver style numbers references in citation order:

MWE

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[ruled]{manyfoot}
\usepackage[style=vancouver]{biblatex}
\addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

\setlength{\textheight}{5in} % just to make a smaller picture

% Define a citation command based on \supercite
% but without superscripting
% because the footnoter command will take care of that;
% and put the bib labelnumber in []:
\DeclareCiteCommand{\superciten}%[\mkbibsuperscript]
  {\iffieldundef{prenote}
     {}
     {\BibliographyWarning{Ignoring prenote argument}}%
   \iffieldundef{postnote}
     {}
     {\BibliographyWarning{Ignoring postnote argument}}}
  {%
    \usebibmacro{citeindex}%
   \mkbibbrackets{\usebibmacro{cite}}%
   }
  {\supercitedelim}
  {}

% Define a new foot layer called c,
% so that command \Footnotetextc becomes available:
\newfootnote{c}

% For convenience, put footnotemark/footnotetext commands 
% in a wrapper macro:
\newcommand{\bottomcite}[1]{%
\Footnotemark{\superciten{#1}}\Footnotetextc{}{\fullcite{#1}}}

\begin{document}
text\footnote{A footnote.} 
text\Footnotemark{m}\Footnotetextc{}{c note text} 
text\footnote{Another footnote.} 

xmtest\bottomcite{worman} 
xotest\Footnotemark{\superciten{nussbaum}}\Footnotetextc{}{\fullcite{nussbaum}} 
xntest\bottomcite{sigfridsson}
 
%x \autocite{aksin}


\printbibliography
\end{document}

Answer 2

A visualization:

Not recommendable.

Different information types shouldn't be intermingled. (e.g., Why use footnotes in the first place? Put the footnote texts inline in the main text, to see.)

Plus: Repeating the same info in the page bottom can be avoided by using only the superscripted parencite part\textbf{\textsuperscript{\parencite{#1}}} in the text.

And so on....

More design thought is required.

MWE

\documentclass{article} 
\usepackage[paperheight=4in]{geometry}%for one screen image

%from kaobiblio.sty:
\usepackage[
    %style=numeric-comp,
    %citestyle=authortitle-icomp,
    citestyle=numeric-comp,
    %bibstyle=authoryear,
    bibstyle=numeric,
    sorting=none,
    %sorting=nyt,
    %sortcites=true,
    %autocite=footnote,
    backend=biber, % Compile the bibliography with biber
    hyperref=true,
    backref=true,
    citecounter=true,
    pagetracker=true,
    citetracker=true,
    ibidtracker=context,
    autopunct=true,
    autocite=plain,
]{biblatex}
%\usepackage{hyperref}

%
\addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}



\newcommand{\myfnmarktext}[2]{%
\textbf{\textsuperscript{\parencite{#1}}}%
{%
\renewcommand{\thefootnote}{\relax}%
\footnotetext%
{%
\kern-1ex{\textbf{\textsuperscript{\parencite{#1}}}}
\citeauthor*{#1} 
(\citeyear{#1}), 
\citetitle{#1}. #2%
}%
}%
}

\begin{document}


\begin{verbatim}
\parencite{#1}: \citeauthor*{#1} (\citeyear{#1}), \citetitle{#1}%
\end{verbatim}

Some text\footnote{A footnote.} and some more text\myfnmarktext{aristotle:rhetoric}{This, obviously, is a reference.}
and more text\footnote{Another footnote, but not citing \parencite{aristotle:rhetoric}.}. And the famous philosopher 
again,\myfnmarktext{aristotle:rhetoric}{This, obviously, is a reference too.}
and another normal footnote\footnote{The next footnote.}.
\printbibliography
\end{document}

Edited to add:

kaobook class's use of marginnotes (for footnotes and for bibliographic references) in effect makes it a two-column layout:

From a textboook

From kaobook's documentation: note the repeated bib ref: