I use UTF-8 encoding to type a document in French, with the following definitions for guillemets:


and the Babel package:


However, when I type a text like ceci cela «~quoted~» ceci cela, the spacing is wrong around the opening guillemet:

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Notice that the space before the opening guillemet is too small, and the spacing after is too large. The closing guillemet has correct spacing. How could I fix that?

  • I remember sending a bug report to the (active) developer of the french babel package earlier this year, regarding this particular issue when using XeLaTeX. He issued a corrective patch within days, which is available for download here. (Note: I am unsure whether it solves your problem, but someone might be interested in this anyway.) – ienissei Sep 11 '12 at 8:09

The spacing is already inserted by \og and \fg, so you shouldn't type the ~. You can consider changing the definition of the Unicode character as


so that inputting

Ces simulations «directes» sont ainsi

Ces simulations « directes » sont ainsi

will be equivalent.

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Notice that \xspace does nothing.

If you insist to type «~directes~», then the definition for the open guillemets character could be


Say what you want, but I find this spacing awful. ;-)

  • The reason I type the space is that I am so used to it in all other environments that I cannot refrain from typing it when I write in TeX… And if I continue typing the ~, \ignorespaces isn't enough, I still get wrong spacing. – F'x Sep 10 '12 at 23:26
  • @F'x With that definition just don't use ~. Since you probably use the T1 encoding, you can also write <<~directes~>> but with a slight difference in spacing (\og and \fg are designed for removing the little space in excess). – egreg Sep 10 '12 at 23:30
  • I understand, but not using ~ isn't a solution for me. I'm sure LaTeX has a way of accomodating my particular need, rather than me having to do the extra work – F'x Sep 10 '12 at 23:32
  • @F'x I've added an alternative definition that allows «~. – egreg Sep 10 '12 at 23:35

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